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The Sector Skills Council for Science, Engineering and Manufacturing Technologies

10 February 2009

Lord Drayson gives evidence on ‘putting science and engineering at the heart of government policy’

Summary

The Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee held its first hearing of the inquiry into ‘putting science and engineering at the heart of government policy’ on 26th January.  As the Minister of State for Science and Innovation, Lord Drayson has a key role in promoting science and innovation across government.  This evidence session was an opportunity for the Committee to quiz him on how he sees this role developing and how government support for science and engineering is implemented.  See an uncorrected transcript from the evidence session and the Science Question Time which followed it here.

Semta View

Semta’s evidence to the Committee called for better understanding of the needs of science and engineering companies in wider policy-making and initiatives (for example, Train to Gain).  We also highlighted the value of engaging with the Sector Skills Councils which cover these areas in the economy when formulating policy.  See our evidence to the Select Committee here.

Lord Drayson on science and engineering in government policy

  • views his role as one of champion of science, engineering and innovation throughout government 
  • aims to strongly encourage those departments which do not have a chief scientific adviser (eg Treasury) to appoint one
  • believes that technology transfer activity has significantly improved over the past ten years
    Is concerned that, despite an increase in the number of spin-outs, they are not turning into really substantial businesses
  • wants to encourage post-docs to go into school teaching and industry and move between academia, industry and government
  • did not want to be drawn on whether the government’s science policy should proactively invest more in regions other than Oxford / Cambridge / London
  • is encouraging RDAs to work with the Technology Strategy Board to ensure alignment with regional inward investment and government support for technological research
  • articulated the view that investing in research attracts great researchers, but an existing critical mass of experts in a region is one of the key drivers for investment
  • social policy could develop a more evidence-based approach like science – using pilots, measures of impact, etc

Science Question Time – Lord Drayson’s comments

  • The UK needs to look at where we have real strategic advantage and invest in these areas during the recession
  • In the NHS the UK has a unique asset to address challenges such as the aging population and the growth in healthcare costs
  • He would not be drawn on what areas might be ‘dropped’ in order to refocus policy and funding on areas of strategic advantage, but made it clear that he wanted a strong and broad science base as well as specialism
  • He supports increasing concentration of expertise in research
  • He does not believe the government should step in to fund R&D from which companies withdraw due to the recession
  • Companies have two jobs during a downturn – to survive and to position themselves for growth in time for the upturn
  • The government must use its own procurement processes to support R&D and to invest in university infrastructure
  • He is interested in the debate about how to increase demand for science education over other subjects
  • The UK could lead the world in life sciences
  • He believes in a certain amount of intervention to address issues (such as energy), rather than simply leaving it to the market
  • It is important that the Research Councils continue to fund larger sustainable projects, which give researchers stability
  • It is difficult to judge the balance of funding between blue skies and transitional research and he is aware of a perception that pure research is losing out to applied research
  • He intends to use peer review in choosing the strategic areas for increased investment

 

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